I couldn't possibly see it more differently than you do. But I'm the biggest Justin lover in the fandom.

Brian was a 31 year old man and Justin was a TEENAGER with PTSD. I don't even begin to understand the Brianite analysis of their relationship. Sorry!

Listen, you are totally free to believe anything you want about the show. I have no time or patience for the Justin hate, and I don't care about CowLip. I'm fairly famous as being a huge Justin lover and not wanting to talk about the actors or behind the scenes stuff, so ummmm... why are we having this discussion in my private journal?

Let's not. Please do it somewhere else.

Your right and I am sorry. I enjoy your fics and hope you will accept my apology,

Thanks.

I'm the biggest Justin lover in the fandom.

Excuse ME?!!!! ;)

Justin haters make Brian's dick soft. That's all I've got to say.

LOL, I know, I know... I was upset.

I don't think you and I watched the same show.

I get that a lot. when it comes to the break up of Brian and Justin. I think its mostly because I don't ship Brian and Justin. I am a Brian fan and those last episodes hurt like hell to watch.

I loved Brian and Justin in season 1 and up to I think episode 209 or 210 which ever one Justin slept with Eric. after that I was done with Brian/Justin. Although after the reunion I was happy that Brian was happy again, and I knew he was happy because he was with Justin, so I started to enjoy watching the pair again.

Okay, that's honestly just funny. You are upset that Justin slept with a virgin and showed him a good time instead of being a heartless fuck... where exactly do you think he learned such things?

okay, i was going to be glib and just blow this off, but I can't. You're completely entitled to your opinion. Now, that said, you're wrong.

Sure there were a lot of things that Brian did wrong, The hustler was tasteless and destroying the art work was petty, but it doesn't equal being two faced and immature and hurting someone that didn't deserve to be hurt. A man and tried over and over again to make room for Justin. A man that saw Justin through the toughest moment of his life and almost got him through the other side. A man that changed all his rules for a boy that wasn't aware enough to get it.

i'll ignore the fact that this seems a lot like projecting to me and just say that neither Brian NOR Justin deserved to be hurt. Brian tried, yes, so did Justin, but lets remember a few things. Brian was not actually the one hit with a bat, put in a coma, left alone in the hospital without so much as a single visit from the only person who might have some idea of what he was going through, released to find that the one thing that really defined him, his art, was inalterably and permanatly changed.

also, Justin's been having nightmares EVERY NIGHT, so he's sleep deprived.

Was Justin right and good and perfect? no? was Brian? no. Brian knew how to communicate with Justin and then he hit a wall, he had no more to give, which I get, and don't blame him for, but the reality is that they both did their share of pain infliction and management.

it's not about "oh, poor justin, Brian got him a hustler." it's about the fact that justin, the strong, persistent twat we met in season one only flickers in and out by the end of season two. He's lost, he's lost his center, and he's hurting, so when he tries, he often fails, which only proves some of what he's already feeling.

he needed things Brian couldn't provide, and he he looked for them elsewhere. Brian never told him not to. He broke the rules, and i don't say that's okay but Brian's refusal to admit that he even cared at that point was equally painful.

was their breakup inevitable? yes. Was it one specific party's fault? no.

It hurts because they're both hurt, because they're both lost, because they're both boys but Brian IS 31... at some point you have to ditch your "i had a fucked up childhood" excuse and step up. Brian does that later... but not here.

i think that when it comes to their break up, they were both at fault sometimes, and sometimes, one was more at fault than the other...but they were both at fault. brian's not completely to blame, and neither is justin. they both needed the break up. justin, so that he could find his balance within himself again, so that he could be strong enough to be with brian, and brian so that he could realize that hey, he did love justin and maybe, just maybe, letting him know(in his own way)wasn't that bad or difficult. they needed the break up so that they could both be strong enough to be together.

also, i just wanted to say that i don't love one character more than the other. i can identify and relate to brian more, yes, but that doesn't mean that i love justin less. i love them both and even more so when they're together. :)